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  Rumor about the Imitate Jesus Convention

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i saw a rumor a few weeks ago on reddit that the new imitate jesus convention is supposed to present new light and clarified understandings on the disfellowshipping/disassociation practices.. supposedly, if this rumor has any truth to it, there will be a talk given at the convention about how we should not be strict like the pharisees in how we shun people, loosening up some of the jw rules about this practice.. has anyone here heard anything about this or have more info on it?.

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  This might be what they will refer to as far as imitating Jesus' example on shunning:

  17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector. Matthew 18:17 New International Version

  Note that 'pagans' and tax collectors were supposed to be ignored to the greatest degree possible.

  And here is what the Bible has to say about how Christianity will effect family relationships:

  34 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn

  “‘a man against his father,
  a daughter against her mother,
  a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
  36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household. - Matthew 10:34-36 New International Version

  Why should the Watchtower be any different?
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  New Light! People CAN now be saved AFTER the Tribulation begins!

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for decades, i remember the society, publications, and elders saying that once the great tribulation begins, it is too late to repent or be saved.

  they said the "door of the ark will have been closed.".

  now, however, look at the brand-new clarified understanding / new light on this from jw.org, below.. they are still saying that the majority of worldly people will not be saved, but they are now saying it is possible.. the simplified july study watchtower says this:.

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  If that idea takes root then it will allow for some of the Witnesses to drop out of field service. The Watchtower will no longer be able to guilt trip them by saying that if a single person does not get preached to and he dies at Armageddon then his blood will be on their hands.
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  If They Stopped Shunning Tomorrow?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  imagine that the cult decided to stop shunning family members on the proviso that the dfd person was not actively trying to attack the cult.. (please don't debate whether or not this is likely - it's hypothetical).

  how would you respond to your family?.

  personally i think i would be less than cooperative.

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  Cofty, "Assume it was official and your relatives followed it."

  I personally would not want to associate with anyone who had previously shunned me.
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  If They Stopped Shunning Tomorrow?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  imagine that the cult decided to stop shunning family members on the proviso that the dfd person was not actively trying to attack the cult.. (please don't debate whether or not this is likely - it's hypothetical).

  how would you respond to your family?.

  personally i think i would be less than cooperative.

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  If the Watchtower were to bring this issue up they will probably say shunning is up to your conscience just like the blood transfusion issue.
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  If They Stopped Shunning Tomorrow?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  imagine that the cult decided to stop shunning family members on the proviso that the dfd person was not actively trying to attack the cult.. (please don't debate whether or not this is likely - it's hypothetical).

  how would you respond to your family?.

  personally i think i would be less than cooperative.

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  I count myself most fortunate that I never had family that were in the JWs.

  By asking if they would stop shunning do you mean official Watchtower position or the individuals? Even if it were the official Watchtower position individuals within it might not necessarily follow it.
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  Church of the FSM

  by problemaddict 2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  guess which my favorite photo is when you scroll down.. http://www.vice.com/read/my-weekend-with-a-surrey-bc-pastafarian-712.

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  Isn't this a health hazard?

  Obi shops for a new colander to wear at a Dollar Store
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  Where Does Jehovah Live?

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when my niece was very little (over 20 years ago), barely walking or talking, my mother decided to teach her "where jehovah lives".

  she would coach her and say, "where does jehovah live?

  " in a sing-song voice.

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  5 Year Old "Ministers"

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  all witnesses are ministers.

  from the time a witness is baptized, they are considered ministers.

  this religion is getting more ridiculous each passing day.

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  Calling children "ministers" is really no more ridiculous than the Mormon church calling 20 year olds elders.
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  Tsarnaev guilty - should he get death or not?

  by Simon in

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  i think he probably will (it is the us after all) but i hope he doesn't.

  he caused incredible pain and suffering to men, women and children who had never done anything to him.

  many died in unimaginable agony, others are disabled for life.

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  The purpose of jail is not to punish or torture people but to isolate them from society including a prison society. Every prisoner should get solitary confinement.

  Although I agree with the death penalty in principle in practice I would have life in prison. About 10% of those convicted are likely to be innocent, railroaded through an unfair trial. Life in prison will give the innocent a chance to vindicate themselves. It's happened before.
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  Questions about the Flood for Brother Jeramy

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how long did the flood last?how long can land vegetation survive submerged in seawater?how long can freshwater fish survive in saltwater?how old is human civilization?

  what is the oldest settlement in south america?

  how did those people get there from the middle east after the flood wiped out everything on the earth?.

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  neat blue dog,

  "4: Pretty much all researchers agree that civilization began to record their history only less than 5,000 years ago, and for some reason the humans in the thousands of years before that didn't."

  There are cave paintings that are tens of thousands of years old.

  "Explain how a plant that ok can be dated with pinpoint certainty."

  Tree rings. They overlap in fossilized trees. There's a whole field of science that deals with that. It's called dendrochronology.

  "who said saber tooth tigers ate grass?"

  Most young earth creationists claim that there were no predators before the Fall and that lions ate grass and tyrannosaurus ate palm trees or their coconuts.